SiN II annoucnement in XX days?

[kAmALA]

http://www.ritual.com/splash/

i may have to buy a new computer

from bluesnews

The Ritual Entertainment Website now offers a redirect to this teaser page that seems to be a countdown of some sort, as the page currently sports a ginormous 18. Proceeding through to the main page reveals that the tribe is also launching a playtester program open to those 18 years or older in the Dallas, TX area willing to come in and contribute opinions about their works-in-progress. Finally, on another possibly related note, both http://www.ritual.com/sin2/ and http://www.sin2.com/ now redirect to LegionPharma, a site that looks like a legit drug company, though researching that trademark suggests this is fictitious, so this could be some sort of viral marketing for a still-unannounced Sin sequel. Thanks Frans.

[Korrupt]

I just bought stock in LegionPharma.

Bring on the U4 baby!

[Sho]

It's SiN 2.


Family Relations: Charles Thomas Blade, father (deceased, Police Officer who died in the line of duty); Sherilyn Palmer Blade, mother (deceased, died in chemical plant fire while saving her staff).


Source: http://www.ritual.com/sin/blade.html


LegionPharma is founded by Sherilyn Palmer under the name of Palmer Pharmaceuticals.


Source: http://www.legionpharma.com/about.php

Wonder what the "14 7" on the splash page means? It could be 14th of July, but the 18 day countdown corresponds to 4th of July, which is a nice launch date.

[Sho]

Notice Ritualistic and LegionPharma likely share the same web host:
www.ritualistic.com (http://www.ritualistic.com) = 69.17.116.118
www.legionpharma.com (http://www.legionpharma.com) = 69.17.116.124

[JezzyBall]

**sports a boner and passes out**

[JezzyBall]

Originally posted by Korrupt:
I just bought stock in LegionPharma.

Bring on the U4 baby!




BTW Wassap Korrupt?

kamala good to see you around. I'm going to see the Giants play July 31st in Milwaukee. Got a box behind the Giants dugout.

[Korrupt]

BTW Wassap Korrupt?



Jezzy! Heay man!, good to see ya. I imagine we might see some old schoolers roll in soon, you know they can't resist the calling of SiN. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

As for me? I've been busy making games and mt biking. Kam, where u been hiding man?

[FliX]

man im sooo looking forward to SIN2 /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Milhouse PEZ]

I've been busy making games...



Me too. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Glad to see the old crew is still hanging in there.

[Icculus LoK]

Nice. I been waiting for this day. Time to dust off the mouse. I really am looking foward to hanging with the old peeps on the servers again.

To a time that will live forever for all of us. /cheers

[JimmyC]

I can't take it anymore!

Sin2 is in development. It's put on hold. It's been resurrected. That web banner was just a left over. Wait, they're really doing something with it.

Stop toying with me!!

GAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!

/head explodes

[The MiMiC]

Well, I've been waiting for this for years, if it is SiN II that is.
If not, well, we'll see.

[STATIC3D]

Woohoo!

http://www.legionpharma.com/media.php
Look close at the pic on the left...looks screenshot-ish to me.

[onethumb]

Here's hoping SiN will be reborn... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Don

[JezzyBall]

Don "onethumb" (sp) McCaskil - Good to see your post and this one....

From Blues News (As the community over there still debates who's fault the bugs were...and miss the point.....)


I worked on SiN, so I know of what I speak.

Let's get one thing clear: Ritual worked their heart out to make SiN a great, bug-free game.

Activision, as a public company with shareholders to answer to, needed to meet their quarter. They controlled the purse strings, and both QA time and time for us to polish lost out to making their quarter.

Business as usual. The SiN developers weren't to blame, they didn't have a choice. The Activision & Ritual QA teams weren't to blame, they didn't have a chance. If you'd like to lay the blame somewhere, lay it where it belongs: fickle investors and scared execs.

Luckily, Levelord, ParadoX, and Atkins are still at Ritual. They're oozing with talent over there, and they're hungry for a hit. Sin, if reborn, will rock.

Don

[Lanik]

Hey guys. Here's hoping it's Sin 2.

[Gabriel_Etranil]

List of the Board of Directors: http://www.legionpharma.com/about.php?directors


Sherilyn Palmer / Chairwoman
Founder of Palmer Pharma, Sherilyn spearheaded the acquisition by Legion Technologies group

Col. Charles B. PsyD
Adjunct advisor for bioterrorism efforts. Charles is a former marine special forces operative, and is currently serving in law enforcement

Andrew McPherson
Winner of the 2001 CyberAI award....

Dr. Eleanor Morton
Former organic chemistry professor at Thornhill University...




---------------------------------------------------------



McPherson - HC Officer (Head Wound - DOA - 1.02.36)
Note- notify McPherson's wife-
"Wasn't wearing his damn helmet. Nothing I could do."





Fatal Fire Kills One at LegionTEK Corporation...research facility in Thornhill, 25 miles north of Freeport. In an act of true heroism, Sherilyn Palmer Blade, sector supervisor at LegionTEK, traded her life... "All I could see was black smoke until Sherilyn's hands reached in to grab me" says chemist Dr. Eleanor Morton , 39.



Most of these quotes are from the SiN manual.

More info: http://www.sinthemovie.com/main/maincast/hardcops/blade/blade.html

[TheDarthJedi]

jeepers!

i do so hope this is going to be real!


holy awol batman!

(boogaboogaboo)

/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[TheDarthJedi]

Originally posted by Korrupt:

BTW Wassap Korrupt?


I imagine we might see some old schoolers roll in soon, you know they can't resist the calling of SiN. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif





SiN! SiN! SiN!

/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

i do believe.. i count as an 'old schooler' woot!

/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Grandpapa]

Wet dreams? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[JezzyBall]

ELEXIS IS BACK!

[FliX]

Originally posted by JezzyBall:
ELEXIS IS BACK!




rock on! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[TheDarthJedi]

Originally posted by JezzyBall:
ELEXIS IS BACK!




Do I see another SiN LAN party on the horizon maybe? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

heh heh heh

I still have an archived video from the first one... somewhere......
/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

(the one we had at origin here in austin)

ahh.. good times! good times!

[NeoK]

wh00p /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

/me slaps badman

[badman]

Good to see so many familiar faces. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[TheDarthJedi]

hell its a blast seeing some of the old posters here!!

PEZ.. LoK!!

memories!!

if things get revived like they used to be, or anywhere CLOSE!!
I'm so looking forward to it for that reason ALONE!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

the community is what kept me playing the game for.. what was it??... 3 years?... more?... stopped sometime early '03 i think......?

don't really know why heh.
think thats when I started my EQ 1 addiction.. ha!

[Xenogenetic]

0.909297427

omg the news is out!
http://www.argn.com/archive/000282sin2_viral_site_discovered.php

[Wrym_PEZ]

Originally posted by Milhouse PEZ:

I've been busy making games...



Me too. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Glad to see the old crew is still hanging in there.




I've been busy wishing I was making games. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

PEZ up in the hizzouse!

[Milhouse PEZ]

Take a look at our little dimplomat...


Originally posted by JeZZyBall on the Bluesnews forums:

"I would encourage you all to stop by the "inside" community at www.ritualistic.com (http://www.ritualistic.com) as we already are seeing the players coming back out of the woodwork. It's a very friendly community. I'm sure you'd be welcomed.

I go by JeZZyBall there."

[TheDarthJedi]

heh
yea, we are comming outta the woodwork here arnt we?

so, who never actually LEFT??

(im guilty of leaving /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif )

[LongFo]

Sin 2, this is AWESOME !

[thunder]

this isn't goin to be xbox360 exclusive is it? (there's been no talk about an xbox360 game?)

[TheDarthJedi]

if there has been no talk of one, why start the rumor that it may be?

if, perchance, it WAS, and not a pc game....

well..

i might be taking a trip to dallas soon!!
/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

*but*

the ritual guys are better than that, so i'm not worried!

/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[phxTOM]

i'm dreaming? can this be true?????
i will only believe it when it's official.

ctf, great maps and a hook /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[FliX]

Originally posted by phxTOM:
i'm dreaming? can this be true?????
i will only believe it when it's official.

ctf, great maps and a hook /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif



this is as good as official if you ask me.

if they dare anounce any other game than sin2, i think the community would lynch them... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[phxTOM]

Originally posted by FliX:

Originally posted by phxTOM:
i'm dreaming? can this be true?????
i will only believe it when it's official.

ctf, great maps and a hook /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif



this is as good as official if you ask me.

if they dare anounce any other game than sin2, i think the community would lynch them... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



i waited so long for sin2, i'm not sure if i believe it before i play it /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[FliX]

Originally posted by phxTOM:

Originally posted by FliX:

Originally posted by phxTOM:
i'm dreaming? can this be true?????
i will only believe it when it's official.

ctf, great maps and a hook /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif



this is as good as official if you ask me.

if they dare anounce any other game than sin2, i think the community would lynch them... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



i waited so long for sin2, i'm not sure if i believe it before i play it /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif



i think we have all waited for SIN2

[Lanik]

Yeah. All we need now is a thread with 300+ posts about the green tint in sniper mode.

[TheDarthJedi]

indeed.

[FliX]

Originally posted by Lanik:
Yeah. All we need now is a thread with 300+ posts about the green tint in sniper mode.



http://www.ritualistic.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=156926&page=0&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=93&fpart=1

go on then

[Korrupt]

Originally posted by Lanik:
Yeah. All we need now is a thread with 300+ posts about the green tint in sniper mode.



LOL, no doubt. Heay Lanik, wasn't that zommed green sniper tint?

[JezzyBall]

Originally posted by Korrupt:

Originally posted by Lanik:
Yeah. All we need now is a thread with 300+ posts about the green tint in sniper mode.



LOL, no doubt. Heay Lanik, wasn't that zommed green sniper tint?



Indeed. <font color="green"> Green Tint In Zommed In Sniper Mode </font>

[Reap]

w000t!

[JezzyBall]

*falls over like a stiff trout*

Psst. Reaper just posted!!!!! Welcome back dood. Hope your well...

[TheDarthJedi]

reaper, AND lanik...

and now we have a sniper mode thread.. AND Fecess Breath just "quit sin"

!!

it feels like i never left! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Milhouse PEZ]

And who can forget Tina (http://www.ritualistic.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=UBB10&amp;Number=10693&amp;Forum=U BB10&amp;Words=Tina&amp;Match=Username&amp;Searchpage=0&amp;Limit= 25&amp;Old=allposts&amp;Main=10693&amp;Search=true#Post10693) and Yoko (http://www.ritualistic.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=UBB10&amp;Number=59172&amp;Forum=U BB10&amp;Words=Yoko&amp;Match=Username&amp;Searchpage=0&amp;Limit= 25&amp;Old=allposts&amp;Main=59172&amp;Search=true#Post59172) ? I wonder what ever became of their "all female clan"?

Where's Rome MiB? Anyone heard from him?

[TheDarthJedi]

havent seen Rome around *yet*

as i said in a different thread, i bet once the game is officially 'announced' and/or released, i bet we hear from almost everyone /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Reap]

Hey Jezzy, thanks for the welcome!

And I'm doing great, hopefully you are too, as well as you milhouse, darth, kam, lanik, korrupt /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif, and everyone else!

I can't wait guys... hopefully sin 2 will be the shizzle nizzle.

[noonah]

woot! can't wait!

[RATBURN360]

PLEASE LET IT BE TRUE!
I'll die happy once SiN 2 comes out and I play it to death, like I did with the first!

[Zer0]

They wouldn't ambush me with a game demo when I have no money for a new computer would they?? That would really suck...but so would X-Box only!

[Riddled]

Heh, I remember these website hunts back when I used to be part of the Clockcrew (<font color="red">StrawberryClock</font> IS King of the Portal). Hiding text into pictures using light variation, overlapping images, hiding messages in the source code, encrypted sentences, etc. One trick was to turn a picture into a text file, insert a message and then convert it back into a picture. The addition would only mess with a few pixels and wouldn't be really noticeable at a glance.

In either case, this has given me the desire to dig up my dusty box of SiN and run the gauntlet once again. Tomorrow, when i've had some sleep. I used to play MP but never stuck around long enough to get to know the regulars, perhaps I will have a second chance! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[noonah]

yo zero.. know who this is? /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif its the icelandic kid :P

[TheDarthJedi]

RATBURN!!!!

/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Whazzup man??

nice!
and *ANOTHER* out of the woodwork!

[bluebird]

Well there are TWO Icelandic KIDS in here, and I AM ONE OF THEM!!!!!

-bluebird

[bluebird]

Originally posted by TheDarthJedi:
RATBURN!!!!

/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Whazzup man??

nice!
and *ANOTHER* out of the woodwork!





HOLY CRAP! WOW its DARTH, did you drop ICQ? or get a new number ??

[thunder]

WoW! so many old school faces. And a few fellow PODer s/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif But it's not suprising consitering the reaches of the Sin community /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[jax0r]

WOW!
first of all: HI to everyone here!

heard what's going on and i'm really looking forward to the official announcement /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

hope this turns out to be true - SiN 1 is one of the best fps ever!

see you later - i'm installing SiN right at the moment and i'm going to kick elexis nice ass again

[Riddled]

I hope I pray for multiple endings in Singleplayer!
Elexis and Blade getting married would be like... LOL!

Hey I just reliased something on the website... You know the link to the pair of eyes image, well.

Possible Spoiler:
</font><span class="spoiler" onmouseover="this.className='spoilerhighlight'" onmouseout="this.className='spoiler'">4yoUreyesonly

Reverse the capital letter and the number and what do you get?

U4</span><font class="post">

I must be really bored because now I'm checking over what has already been done (Probably):

</font><span class="spoiler" onmouseover="this.className='spoilerhighlight'" onmouseout="this.className='spoiler'">First is the KEY!
LegionPharma, first name in Genome research!

First person's name on link- Craig Venter
Other possible links- Human, Thornhill</span><font class="post">

And again:
</font><span class="spoiler" onmouseover="this.className='spoilerhighlight'" onmouseout="this.className='spoiler'">On the careers page it states in one of the pictures 'Works is happiness!', is that an intentional spelling error?</span><font class="post">

[FliX]

Originally posted by Riddled:
I hope I pray for multiple endings in Singleplayer!
Elexis and Blade getting married would be like... LOL!




that would be kinda ... /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[TheDarthJedi]

Originally posted by bluebird:

Originally posted by TheDarthJedi:
RATBURN!!!!

/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Whazzup man??

nice!
and *ANOTHER* out of the woodwork!





HOLY CRAP! WOW its DARTH, did you drop ICQ? or get a new number ??



BB!!!

Yea man, i havent logged into ICQ in a long damn time!
flat out forgot my number, login, etc.. etc.. heh

woo!
its a SiNners reuinion!

/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[ninken]

SIN II OMG Either there is a god or the world comming to a END!!!! I can't wait to SIN AGAIN!

When it is annoucened lets send Thank you cards to Ritual!!!

[Riddled]

I am slightly confused...

</font><span class="spoiler" onmouseover="this.className='spoilerhighlight'" onmouseout="this.className='spoiler'">Sherilyn Palmer Blade, who I am assuming is John Blade's mother. Was apparently killed in a building fire whilst saving employees (as stated in the SiN manual), so she either had faked her own death OR the events at LegionPharma took place before the events of the first SiN (which I doubt, but it's always possible).</span><font class="post">

I love puzzles! &lt;(^.^&lt;)

[TheDarthJedi]

Originally posted by Riddled:
I am slightly confused...

</font><span class="spoiler" onmouseover="this.className='spoilerhighlight'" onmouseout="this.className='spoiler'">Sherilyn Palmer Blade, who I am assuming is John Blade's mother. Was apparently killed in a building fire whilst saving employees (as stated in the SiN manual), so she either had faked her own death OR the events at LegionPharma took place before the events of the first SiN (which I doubt, but it's always possible).</span><font class="post">

I love puzzles! &lt;(^.^&lt;)




thats the whole idea here.. likely all this LegionPharma is going to 'set the scene' persey..

either that, or we are going to have a "prequil" sin game..

SiN .5

heheh

/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

but likely it took place BEFORE.. i bet we get a "news bulliten" that there was a fire.. and that the president, "Sherilyn Palmer" died.. leaving behind a husband... and a son.
soon enough after that i bet we hear about the husbands murder...


/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

perhaps, even the formation of hardcorps...

who knows! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Riddled]

Taking a leaf from your point of view... SiN 0.5

Perhaps the website is brought down or bought up by SiNtek?
Perhaps John's mother was killed so SiNtek could move on in?

I hope SiN 2 is slightly more character building than its ancestor. Just played the original again and all I could hear out of Blade was... 'Who's your Daddy!?', 'Make you my bitch!' and 'Damn!'. Good times, good times.

But if this website was not involved with Elexis and SiNTek, why is her name hidden into it?

[TheDarthJedi]

Originally posted by Riddled:
Taking a leaf from your point of view... SiN 0.5

Perhaps the website is brought down or bought up by SiNtek?
Perhaps John's mother was killed so SiNtek could move on in?

I hope SiN 2 is slightly more character building than its ancestor. Just played the original again and all I could hear out of Blade was... 'Who's your Daddy!?', 'Make you my bitch!' and 'Damn!'. Good times, good times.

But if this website was not involved with Elexis and SiNTek, why is her name hidden into it?




from what i recall...

SiNTek is the company who purchased blades's moms company.. thorugh a dummy corporation I think?

dammed if i can remember where i picked that up from, but its stuck in my head..

leigontech was just offered a "CASH DEAL" on a merger.. sintek has that kind of cash.

i bet this is all just part of the 'backstory'

/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[TheDarthJedi]

Originally posted by ninken:
SIN II OMG Either there is a god or the world comming to a END!!!! I can't wait to SIN AGAIN!

When it is annoucened lets send Thank you cards to Ritual!!!



thank you cards?
THANK YOU CARDS?!?

Screw that!

Send Beer and Porn!!!

/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[ninken]

Hey what ever makes them happy, Ill buy them all 400gb drives and send them my entrie xxx collection. "Skin textures for Elexis of course! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif "

[Blueturd]

Sweet! Glad to see everyone is still here. Looks like the POD [People of Denmark] clan is going to have to start up again.

/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[TheDarthJedi]

Originally posted by Blueturd:
Sweet! Glad to see everyone is still here. Looks like the POD [People of Denmark] clan is going to have to start up again.

/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif



"People Of Denmark" ?!?

....
you know, i was never told what that ment......

didnt it used to stand for.. um. yea.
pissed off destroyers

or something?

people of denmark?!?

*sheesh*

[TheDarthJedi]

Originally posted by ninken:
Hey what ever makes them happy, Ill buy them all 400gb drives and send them my entrie xxx collection. "Skin textures for Elexis of course! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif "



*snicker*

[Blueturd]

Originally posted by TheDarthJedi:

Originally posted by Blueturd:
Sweet! Glad to see everyone is still here. Looks like the POD [People of Denmark] clan is going to have to start up again.

/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif



"People Of Denmark" ?!?

....
you know, i was never told what that ment......

didnt it used to stand for.. um. yea.
pissed off destroyers

or something?

people of denmark?!?

*sheesh*





I'm unaware of any other clans that went by POD other than [People of Denmark], however I suspect it's possible that there was another.

Blueturd [POD]

[Megazoid]

Saw the announcement for Sin2, loaded up that dusty old Sin CD, played right through the game and now realised how much I loved that game. Damn can't wait /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

I sure hope they have the same voice talent, well actually the whole original team for that matter.

http://freespace.virgin.net/megazoid/lord.jpg

[Riddled]

All signs secretly point towards a press or information release related to SiN 2, but what I really want to know at the moment is (that question in the corner of my mind); which publisher could have or has taken the bait?

Because I will bow to the publisher responsible for doing what the rest fear to do and allowing Ritual's and our dreams to come true. From the character renders I saw months back, I be gagging.

/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif!

[thunder]

Originally posted by Blueturd:

Originally posted by TheDarthJedi:

Originally posted by Blueturd:
Sweet! Glad to see everyone is still here. Looks like the POD [People of Denmark] clan is going to have to start up again.

/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif



"People Of Denmark" ?!?

....
you know, i was never told what that ment......

didnt it used to stand for.. um. yea.
pissed off destroyers

or something?

people of denmark?!?

*sheesh*





I'm unaware of any other clans that went by POD other than [People of Denmark], however I suspect it's possible that there was another.

Blueturd [POD]



http://home.comcast.net/~bluebird.1/ - Pised off destroyers

I'm sensing tensions will run high on the battlefield /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif - maybe we'll have to crush you in some DM to take rightful ownership of that abreviation once and for all /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Sebastian Lag]

Whoop de doo!!! Sin 2, i'm ready for fraggin /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif This is kick ass news, i'll tell everyone i know...

[FatAss]

I heard word ass...wassup /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Riddled]

There has been an update on the Pharma website, check it out! /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[TheDarthJedi]

I KNEW IT!

oh.. and 'blueturd'...

hmm..

here we go again.

[phxTOM]

did i miss something or might there be another code in the news archive?

"MySQL Error: 1062 (Duplicate entry 'news_session-096b796cb7f48fa6fcd118c1e6854e72' for key 69) Session halted."

[Riddled]

In reply to above:
That error message has not changed.

Update:
'Not all is as it seems do not be misled'
has changed to
'This message will change when you solve all for 9 keywords'

Another intentional misspell?

BIG EDIT:
Damn I knew U4 had something to do with this...
Look here, the ARG team have made the next step for us.
U4forEverybody - Thank the guys at Unfiction (http://www.legionpharma.com/about.php?U4forEverybody)

Now we need to find the passcode.

[TheDarthJedi]

Originally posted by Riddled:
In reply to above:
That error message has not changed.

Update:
'Not all is as it seems do not be misled'
has changed to
'This message will change when you solve all for 9 keywords'

Another intentional misspell?

BIG EDIT:
Damn I knew U4 had something to do with this...
Look here, the ARG team have made the next step for us.
U4forEverybody - Thank the guys at Unfiction (http://www.legionpharma.com/about.php?U4forEverybody)

Now we need to find the passcode.



and if you wanted a blatent pointer.. thats it

u4 was sintek's mutation drug.

/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

as much as i hate this teasing, i have to say.. its quite amusing at the same time.!

(course, id rather they just come out and ANNOUNCE the damn thing! get it over with! hehehe)

[Michael_Russell]

Originally posted by TheDarthJedi:
(course, id rather they just come out and ANNOUNCE the damn thing! get it over with! hehehe)


Patience, my padawan, patience. There are powers at work here that are not to be underestimated...

[BKxRizzo99]

This better be true! *shakes a fist*

[Riddled]

[starwars quote]U4 is the path to some abilities that are considered unnatural![/starwars quote]

[Michael_Russell]

Originally posted by Riddled:
[starwars quote]U4 is the path to some abilties that are considered unnatural![/starwars quote]



The dark side of the force is a path to abilities that are considered by some to be sploitz.

[Riddled]

Something completely offtopic...

I wonder how many polygons will go into Elexis's breasts in SiN2?

[TheDarthJedi]

Originally posted by Michael_Russell:

Originally posted by TheDarthJedi:
(course, id rather they just come out and ANNOUNCE the damn thing! get it over with! hehehe)


Patience, my padawan, patience. There are powers at work here that are not to be underestimated...



geh!!!

*twitch* *twitch* *twitch*

[TheDarthJedi]

Originally posted by Michael_Russell:

Originally posted by Riddled:
[starwars quote]U4 is the path to some abilties that are considered unnatural![/starwars quote]



The dark side of the force is a path to abilities that are considered by some to be sploitz.




give me sploitz or give me dea---- wait.. no.. just give me sploitz!!!
/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Wrym_PEZ]

What's up Reap?

I haven't seen you guys in forever!

Man, we should have a reunion in Dallas and Ritual should foot the bill. LOL!

[warrior]

Can't believe I missed all this while trying to install SiN Gold on a MAC.

I can't wait..............please let it be!

[TrapperKeeper]

Finally! Theres a contiuation of Quake 2, this game had a worse storyline, and gameplay was nothing more than shooting. There was a sequel for Half-Life, wich was worse, and had nothing of what was promised. Each big shooter had its sequel, expect SIN, which was in my oppinion the best of all, cause there was more than just shooting, and it had interresting Charakters. If this isnt just a late april joke from ritual, we can expect a fantastic game! But ritual, plz throw away this first new elexis model, it wasnt as good as the render artwork of elexis on the cover of sin. Just go back to the roots and make this sexy bitch like she was in the first game (big boops, a bit comiclike, original red dress) Maybe you can use the old high res mesh of elexis to extract the normal maps, just make shure she looks like in SIN! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[TDCxPhrackR]

wooot. best news ever. spry2 will be ungodly. natas28 , justskills you guys around?!?!?

[Riddled]

&gt;Go to the password page.
&gt;Enter 'Genome' as password (Without quotations).
&gt;Download MP3.
&gt;Check file info.
&gt;Return to the password page.
&gt;Enter 'Demosthenes' as password (Without quotations).
&gt;Here is the next clue.

[TheDarthJedi]

Originally posted by TDCxPhrackR:
wooot. best news ever. spry2 will be ungodly. natas28 , justskills you guys around?!?!?




mmm... spry 2 !!!!!!!!!!

[Vapor]

Wow, look at all these ppl that i havn't seen in years! WOW!!!! This sounds amazing if its real... For the last 5-8 years ive been talking about sin to everyone... Im pretty much the shit playing where you guys should be right now - ut2k4- with a dude named Gimix whos pretty much pro at ut2k4, who was commando Don from die haha . All we do is talk about sin... How i miss this game soo much and all of you guys!.. Plz plz plz plz put that grapple and sniper gun back in sin2

that's all i need baby w00000000t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Vapor]

funny i just stumbled over a thread about sin2 ... This is trippy how everyone is reuniting again! w00t

[TheDarthJedi]

commando don..

ha!
i reconize that name!!

yea, we are comming out of the woodwork!

weee /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[ParadoX]

Can't ....wait.....any....longer.... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[JezzyBall]

Originally posted by ParadoX:
Can't ....wait.....any....longer.... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif




Oh stop rubbing it in...I've lost days of sleep over puzzles......and sniglits of info......and I like it.


*realizes he may need help*

[TheDarthJedi]

Originally posted by ParadoX:
Can't ....wait.....any....longer.... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



we know how you feel.

/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[TheDarthJedi]

Originally posted by ParadoX:
Can't ....wait.....any....longer.... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



we know how you feel......


/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[bluebird]

Originally posted by Blueturd:

Originally posted by TheDarthJedi:

Originally posted by Blueturd:
Sweet! Glad to see everyone is still here. Looks like the POD [People of Denmark] clan is going to have to start up again.

/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif



"People Of Denmark" ?!?

....
you know, i was never told what that ment......

didnt it used to stand for.. um. yea.
pissed off destroyers

or something?

people of denmark?!?

*sheesh*





I'm unaware of any other clans that went by POD other than [People of Denmark], however I suspect it's possible that there was another.

Blueturd [POD]



Well Sorry Folks POD is a very old CLAN name, from way back in the Commodore 64 Days, Then we called it the Pirates of Denver,. Do a GOOGLE search you will see some of my handywork in the Commodore games, I think Ughman Olympics is in Google, done by POD, so I picked it up again, and we renamed it to Pissed Off Destroyers, of SIN.

Well I guess I win an award for the LONGEST RUNNING SIN SERVER on the planet !!! its been almost 6 years! WOOOHOOO

-BB[pod]

[bluebird]

Originally posted by TheDarthJedi:
I KNEW IT!

oh.. and 'blueturd'...

hmm..

here we go again.





I guess some of the SAME J.E.R.K.S. are still around Darth, Oh well I hope their words are as mighty as their game.

-BB[pod]

[bluebird]

Originally posted by JezzyBall:

Originally posted by ParadoX:
Can't ....wait.....any....longer.... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif




Oh stop rubbing it in...I've lost days of sleep over puzzles......and sniglits of info......and I like it.


*realizes he may need help*



Hey Jezzy hows it going, I still remember playon on TKCS wages of SIN server, those were the Days! Damn I miss them, that was loads of FUN. COD-UO is the game of choice these days.

-BB[pod]

[Grandpapa]

Originally posted by bluebird:

Originally posted by Blueturd:

Originally posted by TheDarthJedi:

Originally posted by Blueturd:
Sweet! Glad to see everyone is still here. Looks like the POD [People of Denmark] clan is going to have to start up again.

/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif



"People Of Denmark" ?!?

....
you know, i was never told what that ment......

didnt it used to stand for.. um. yea.
pissed off destroyers

or something?

people of denmark?!?

*sheesh*





I'm unaware of any other clans that went by POD other than [People of Denmark], however I suspect it's possible that there was another.

Blueturd [POD]



Well Sorry Folks POD is a very old CLAN name, from way back in the Commodore 64 Days, Then we called it the Pirates of Denver,. Do a GOOGLE search you will see some of my handywork in the Commodore games, I think Ughman Olympics is in Google, done by POD, so I picked it up again, and we renamed it to Pissed Off Destroyers, of SIN.

Well I guess I win an award for the LONGEST RUNNING SIN SERVER on the planet !!! its been almost 6 years! WOOOHOOO

-BB[pod]



Ok we all know that /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Keep it running, it's my favorite server /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[TheDarthJedi]

now if i can just get to SEE it, maybe i'll managed to catch people ON it and play too /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Kubb]

OMG..Cool to see all you guys again...Mostly US pimps but who cares...Really looking forward to this..q=]

[JezzyBall]

Hey Good !!! BB -

Many of the folks here need to bow down to BB and thanks him for endlessly running a server for us for all these years...

*bows*

TKCS was a fun time. Wish I could find thise guys - maybe they'll lurk back around. Joker? Ace? YooWhooo!

[TheDarthJedi]

oh indeed!

i had fun getting pwned by bigpapa the other night in sin dm.. on the pod dm server...

ran around alone for about 8 minutes or so before he jumped in, and proceeded to show me how just out of practice i really am..
/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[sock]

Time to dust down my old SIN/Ritual account! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Wow that is just sweet news, Im really looking forward to playing SIN2.

Sock

[TheDarthJedi]

Originally posted by sock:
Time to dust down my old SIN/Ritual account! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Wow that is just sweet news, Im really looking forward to playing SIN2.

Sock



SOCK!!

holy oldskool batman!

yet another out of the woodwork! how you been doin man?!?

[Grandpapa]

Originally posted by TheDarthJedi:
oh indeed!

i had fun getting pwned by bigpapa the other night in sin dm.. on the pod dm server...

ran around alone for about 8 minutes or so before he jumped in, and proceeded to show me how just out of practice i really am..
/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif




Pwned?? I thought you were just nice to old man, and kindly let me win...

[TheDarthJedi]

Originally posted by Grandpapa:


Pwned?? I thought you were just nice to old man, and kindly let me win...




er, yes.. of course.. thats it!
yup!

was um.. just toning down my um..uber skills...

yup!

/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[sock]

Originally posted by TheDarthJedi:
SOCK!!
holy oldskool batman!
yet another out of the woodwork! how you been doin man?!?




Ive been mapping for a living and playing loads of games /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
I hope the rumours are right and Sin2 is being made.

Sock

[Sinstigator]

I hope it's true.... Sin 2 would be the only game I'd upgrade my comp for /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[DocSnyder]

If this is no bullshit:

Expect Sensemann to serve SiN2!

Sounds almost too cool to be true...

[doomdragon]

"SiN Episodes gets Steam release"

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=59893

[craigp]

Originally posted by DoomDragon:
" SiN Episodes gets Steam release"

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=59893



Edited for clarity and my sanity. The game is called SiN Episodes, not SiN 2.

[ep911]

says SiN 2 in the article.
"Ritual Entertainment's long-awaited Sin 2"

[craigp]

Yes, but that article is using the one I wrote as a basis. I visited Dallas, met with Ritual chappies and wrote an 8-page preview for PC Gamer UK. They subscribe, read the article then sling their own version online. And get the bloody name wrong.

Our front cover, calling the game SiN Episodes: http://photos19.flickr.com/23534570_e323ab0b1c_o.jpg

[ep911]

aha..
was a good way of getting more info though =)...thanks

[doomdragon]

Whoops, well not my fault, but I dont want to spread the wrong name /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif edited my post.

[Megazoid]

From http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=59893


Ritual Entertainment's long-awaited Sin 2 is to be released episodically over Valve's Steam digital distribution system, with episodes lasting around six hours each to be released "every three to four months" for around $20 (£11.38) an episode.



W.. T.. F..

If there is a DVD/CD version as well, fine. If it's just Steam, then I have an issue with the cost, episodic release and Steam. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[DI_MeisterM]

Indeed. Steam only suckz!
Not everybody wants to use Steam and has a credit card to buy the episodes. I'll buy SiN Episodes if they will be released in a box together for a fair prize /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[JezzyBall]

If you know the history of Sin you'll know this is a good thing. (IMO).

No publisher pushing for early release. Get it right on the first episodes. Ritual is in control. Then the franchise can be solid.

Secondly, I can pay a little 20$ or so and see how I feel about the game. If I'm lking it..I stay with the franchise. Hell I've waited this long...

"Modified version of Steam" - I'm gonna keep the faith. Rit has always done a good job on engines and modifications. I'll trust them to get it right.

I hope to hear more about Multiplayer....

[TheDarthJedi]

Originally posted by JezzyBall:
If you know the history of Sin you'll know this is a good thing. (IMO).

No publisher pushing for early release. Get it right on the first episodes. Ritual is in control. Then the franchise can be solid.

Secondly, I can pay a little 20$ or so and see how I feel about the game. If I'm lking it..I stay with the franchise. Hell I've waited this long...

"Modified version of Steam" - I'm gonna keep the faith. Rit has always done a good job on engines and modifications. I'll trust them to get it right.

I hope to hear more about Multiplayer....





"modified version of steam"

okay.
yes. i didnt see that right off.
with ritual at the helm, perhaps they can make it into something resembling halfway decent.

do have to say though, blade looks pretty kickin' on that cover picture.
heh heh

[daFojtek]

i'm starting to prey for dvd or cd version, Steam sucks.

I Have poor internet connection /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Bass2496]

I'll keep an open mind, but I'll wait to hear on stuff like minimum system requirements, multiplayer, offline playing, etc.

Nevertheless, this is very, very exciting.

[craigp]

I'm going to hang around here and answer any questions I'm comfortable answering (so ask away /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif). And to do a spot of Rumour Control:

It's a heavily modified version of Source (the game engine), not Steam (the delivery system).

[Tecman]

Could you tell us something about the character models? Since this is using Source, did the characters display a variety of believable or comic emotions?

Are the weapons comparable to the ones in SiN, from a design viewpoint?

Did you get to see some SWEET SWEET mutant-type creatures? (yes/no)

Any answer would be appreciated.

[DocSnyder]

What about the most important question?

Will their be "SiN Episodes" Multiplayer? And CTF?

Please?

[The MiMiC]

SiN Episodes?
Cool, I could go for that.
Using steam for delivery?
Yeah, I guess that's OK too.
Using the Source engine?
Hell no.

I bought HL2 through Steam a day or two after it was released, and while the game runs, I've had graphic glitches ever since I got the thing. The main issue I have is with the lighting in the game, and most specifically the new style flashlight, it DOES NOT WORK. I've updated everything driver updateable on my PC, and it still only illuminates the ground when I face in one specific direction.
This is using a BFG 6800 GT 256MB card with every single official driver release since the card came out, and a few beta ones also, running under Windows XP.
Nvidia even says in their release notes that there's a known lighting issue for HL2 under XP that is not caused by their drivers, but by the Source engine.
And after months of trying to get a response from Valve, and having them repeatedly close my trouble ticket for no reason, and send in several screenshots, files, system info files, etc., they finally point me to the forum thread that I started about the issue, and that another player had to give me the 'fix' in, which is to disable the new flashlight style and set it to the older, HL1 flashlight version, which honestly looks like crap but works wherever I shine it, for the most part.
And Valve's response when I email them back complaining that this isn't really a fix for the problem, but a workaround? After months of trying to get a solution, and months of Steam/Source updates that didn't correct the issue?
Word for word:

We are aware of the issue and are currently working on a solution. However, we do not have an ETA on it yet. Please be sure to check www.steampowered.com (http://www.steampowered.com) for more information as it becomes available.


This was the best they could give me, after months of hastle?
Unless Ritual has fixed this and other issues I've had with the Source engine, I'll be very leary about buying any of the Episodes.
Well, at least I know that their customer support would be good, if their past record is any indication. Much better than the crap support Valve supplies.

[ep911]

Originally posted by DocSnyder:
What about the most important question?

Will their be "SiN Episodes" Multiplayer? And CTF?

Please?




yes this is the most important IMO also.

[STATIC3D]

My turn...

Okay, I've been very open and vocal on the QoTW topics that have come out (as many other's here on the forum have). In any case, those here on the forum, and on other forums where I've posted over the years related to gaming topics, know my enjoyment, praise, championing (including creating objects for the SiN2UT and SiN Arena projects) of SiN. While I can understand the reasoning behind this decision, based upon the fact that Ritual was unable to get a publisher to back the product, and yet, still wanted to be able to see their baby live (again), I am not necessarily convinced that this Steam distribution method is the best way to go.

First, Steam has not had the best of records within the gaming community in reguards to acceptance/reception of it, and, not having some ease of use (including even to this day some unresolved) issues. While a game like Half-Life 2, arguably one of the most anticipated PC FPS sequals to date was able to essentially weather the storm, I'm not sure if SiN 2, uh...episodes..., has the kind of pull required for gamers to be willing to accept it in this fashion. Also, there are some that will see this as the first step towards pay-to-play method of gaming and they are not 100% sure they are ready for it (at least based upon some other posts I've seen in another forum).

Secondly, while there has been no mention of a boxed version of the game being released, I think the lack of one, even if it's only based upon/includes all of the finished episodes, would be a mistake. There is something special about being able to actually own, hold, look at, open and install a game purchased in a store. Not to mention a manual is a nice touch too. While this sort of ties into the first point, the fact that NOT having to connect to some online server JUST to play a game (ala HL2/Steam) means we (as gamers) don't have to worry about NOT being able to play the game in the future if we want to (considering that authentication servers or whatever may no longer be around by that point). In other words, gamers want to be able to play a game when they want to (at ANY time after puchasing the game) as long as they have the hardware to run it on without the "need" for "permission" to do so. And, if the number of "old school" games being made available on current generation platforms (or updated/new methods) is any indication, people are going to want to play those "classic" games for many years to come.

Third, there are going to be gamers, limited by their online connection (or other reasons), that will be unable of downloading/playing SiN episodes. For those gamers (i.e. potential customers), without an on-the-shelf version of they game, they are not going to be able purchase/play the game. No matter how great the game may be, there are going to be gamers that would have purchased the game that are going to be unable to do so. Some people just don't have the ability to obtain high speed online connections. Yes, many of those very Wal-Mart type shoppers that DO like to play games, but don't have the best of everything. The money they spend on game purchases often adds up to more than all of the hardcore community game purchases combined. If this wasn't true, then why the H3LL did Deer Hunter become a hit top selling title? Simply put, without a copy of SiN episodes on the shelf, sales will be lost one way or another.

While I know the Rit guys have their own take on things, I feel that sometimes and outside perspective, especially one that is contrary to the consensus, can (at the least) offer something to consider. As a fan of SiN, and a BIG proponent for proper recognition for the game's place in gaming history (due to it's innovative features and fun gameplay), I could simply be behind any choice being made. On the other hand, I'm an objective person and try to do my best to look at more than just one side of a situation. In other forums, I've been flamed, on more than one occasion, for stating contrary opinions. It wasn't that I was simply trying to go against the norm, but, trying to point out things that those with a limited view (for whatever the reason) may not have considered. Sometimes I've been right. Sometimes I've been wrong. In either case, the things I tried to bring up were simply to try and bring light to things that may not have been fully addressed/considered.

I know we don't have 100% of the information at this point. But, we can only form opinions based upon the info we have availabe to us. As for SiN episodes, I can't say that I'm 100% happy about the idea of a Steam only distribution method. While I can understand the reasoning behind the decision, part of me feels this will lead to fewer possible sales than if the game was developed on the side and then a publisher found for the product to be put onto store shelves.

On a positive side, one thing to keep in mind is that HL2 is supposed to be being developed to run on the XBOX, like DooM 3. If this is true, then it's possible that there could be an XBOX (or possibly XBOX 360) version of SiN episodes. So, that would mean that while the PC version would perhaps only be available thru Steam, there could still be an on-the-shelf version available. I guess it may depend on how well the PC Steam version does, who knows? In any case, I still think there should be a copy of SiN episodes available on-the-shelf at some time (even if in the future after all online/Steam episodes have been released).

*****

Now from a fully personal perspective, I REALLY wish this Steam thing for SiN wasn't the case. I'm not a fan of Steam, and can't see this really helping SiN in the long run (beyond being able to see SiN again). As much as I hate to say it, unless there is going to be a boxed version of SiN episodes on store shelves, I will not be purchasing/playing the game. I did not purchase HL2 because, and ONLY because, of the Steam required activation (need to download the rest of the game) method. I know that may seem short sided by some (as a gamer). However, I refuse to purchase a piece of software on the store shelves, just like I would any other product, that I cannot use without "permission" (whatever you want to call it). Activation, if required, should be a ONE TIME thing that can be saved/stored and used at ANY other time in the future as long as I own the software.

Sorry, as much as I was looking forward to SiN'n again, I am unwilling, even for SiN, to accept a Steam distribution method. While some may see it as simply a "different method of distribution" for a game, there is more to it than JUST that. I want to be able to OWN the game, including the disc, manual, box, etc., as well as have access to install and play it ANY time in the future, and, without having to ask for "permission". With a Steam only distribution method, that is not going to be the case. :{

I honestly hope this works well enough for Ritual and SiN to be able to get a on-the-shelf version produced that will entice more people to pick the game up. Perhaps then, considering what the Steam activation method is, I will be able to SiN again...

[M3rl1n]

I don’t see why the game can’t be available on the shelf - in a limited manner - and be distributed over the internet/steam.

I don’t think it would too incredibly difficult to burn a copy of the newest episode, put it in a jewel case, shrink wrap it, and send it off. 5 extra dollars would easily cover the costs of the packaging, and $25 is still a solid price for 6 hours of game play.

Heck, even do like the console games and put it in those DVD style cases with a small manual/story outlining the current episode.

If that was the case I would pay a good $5-10 extra to have a row of “SiN Episodes” lined up on my shelf.

Personally I’m excited about the possibilities that this form of distribution presents that you can't have with standard out of the box games.

/Edit -

Originally posted by STATIC3D:
... I did not purchase HL2 because, and ONLY because, of the Steam required activation (need to download the rest of the game) method. I know that may seem short sided by some (as a gamer). ...



Same here actually - I didn't like Half-Life enough to have to go through the hassle I heard was required to play the sequel.

I'm hoping this will be different.

[STATIC3D]

I just read a post from the BluesNews thread http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/board.pl?action=viewthread&amp;threadid=58262 that mentioned the same thing. I've read thru all the posts and found some interesting take on this topic. Hopefully people involved with this will read thru all the posts and take it into consideration as well.

PS: Seeing as I regularly read the BluesNews news items, and related posts, I happened to notice something about the recent SiN 2 news items.

The first SiN 2/LegionPharma announcement news item got 58 posts.
The second SiN 2/LegionPharma news item got about 20 posts.
The third SiN 2/LegionPharma news item got about 20 posts also.
Today's SiN 2 news item has 112 posts and still counting.

Why has there been more comments/posts/controversy/etc. about Steam as a distribution method than about the game itself?

[thunder]

I'm going to step out of line for a minute and praise this decision. I can't help but feel that the most important aspect of such a remarkable decision is actually in the interest of both the gamer, AND the publisher. Most of people's frustrations are to do with the distribution service, and their distaste for steam.

In any case, lets focus on the best phrase surrounding Sin Episodes right now: "creative freedom." For all of you sinners that only play deathmatch right now, i think you've forgotten just how different the first Sin was in its content. It was mature in every aspect, from Levelord's personal one of a kind touches (a la Elexis' mansion), right to the very nature of the violence and gore.

Ritual has a goldmine with the Sin universe, and are finally able to express it in its entirety - no holds bared (Just imagine Levelord "uncut"). And to top it off, they will be able to truely complete an episode to completeness, no bugs, no glitches, only fun.

Ritual is going to have a hayday, and we're all going to join in on results.

[warrior]

I think this is a good decision too. I don't see how they can lose here. We always wanted the SiN that never was because of the publishers, now we can have it with a sweet graphics engine that makes the old one look like sunday comics.

Also... look @ the number of people online with Steam.

http://www.steampowered.com/status/status.html

And think of the install base of Steam. I think this is going to be a winner. I hope so anyway.

[DI_MeisterM]

</font><blockquote><font class="small">In Antwort auf:</font><hr />
Originally posted by JezzyBall:
If you know the history of Sin you'll know this is a good thing. (IMO).


[/ QUOTE ]

I know the history of SiN and the history of Steam. Both are very bad (Steam is still more buggy than anything else I know), but I never blamed Ritual for the buggy SiN release, I loved the game like it came out.
You know...for many people the Source Engine is the currently most eye candy engine out there...for me it's just Quake1 Engine with newest graphics extension support /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[larsh]

but it still looks great!
but i guess my computer needs a big overhaul next year, at least two cool games coming out by then and sin 2 is absolutely one of them! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[JezzyBall]

Originally posted by craigp:
I'm going to hang around here and answer any questions I'm comfortable answering (so ask away /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif). And to do a spot of Rumour Control:

It's a heavily modified version of Source (the game engine), not Steam (the delivery system).




Thanks Craig. Welcome.

[JezzyBall]

Originally posted by DI_MeisterM:

Originally posted by JezzyBall:
If you know the history of Sin you'll know this is a good thing. (IMO).




I know the history of SiN and the history of Steam. Both are very bad (Steam is still more buggy than anything else I know), but I never blamed Ritual for the buggy SiN release, I loved the game like it came out.
You know...for many people the Source Engine is the currently most eye candy engine out there...for me it's just Quake1 Engine with newest graphics extension support /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif



Your entitled to your opinion. I haven't had one issue with Steam. That's me.

P.S. Just a thought---your opinion in the whole matter may be weakended by the fact that you appear to be a fan of Daikatana......yuck....spit----ptoooey.... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[DI_MeisterM]

</font><blockquote><font class="small">In Antwort auf:</font><hr />
Originally posted by JezzyBall:
Your entitled to your opinion. I haven't had one issue with Steam. That's me.

P.S. Just a thought---your opinion in the whole matter may be weakended by the fact that you appear to be a fan of Daikatana......yuck....spit----ptoooey.... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Indeed, it's my opinion, that above it's yours /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Daikatana: well, it's the most underated game ever, after SiN /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Tecman]

Daikatana wasn't THAT bad, honestly. It was just lynched after not delivering what it promised. Plus the first bit with the TECHFROGS was annoying, but got a bit better later. I dunno, I just got annoyed by it pretty fast.

Some more questions regarding Sin:Episodes:
Did you get to see any sweet sweet mutant creatures?
Does the game feature drivable vehicles?
What was the most remarkable thing about S:E in your opinion?
What about interactivity? Controllable computers and stuff like that?

[TheDarthJedi]

Originally posted by Tecman:
Daikatana wasn't THAT bad, honestly. It was just lynched after not delivering what it promised. Plus the first bit with the TECHFROGS was annoying, but got a bit better later. I dunno, I just got annoyed by it pretty fast.

Some more questions regarding Sin:Episodes:
Did you get to see any sweet sweet mutant creatures?
Does the game feature drivable vehicles?
What was the most remarkable thing about S:E in your opinion?
What about interactivity? Controllable computers and stuff like that?




well, you got to drive vehicles in HL2.. so the engine supports it just fine..

so, that makes me a bit happier.
I want to hop on a jetbike again /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

good times
good times

/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
(now i just wonder, will that engine support the offhand grapple? hmmm)

[Tiletron]

================================================== ========
Additional Requirements:

Strong proficiency in experimental mathematics and quantum cryptography as well as a strong understanding of DNA sequencing. Any candidate that cannot successfully resolve the following problem will not even be considered:

5(71 -u) + 82 + 66 _ 15 (85) + 1 * (105 - b + 8) + (81 - L) = ???
================================================== ========

Maybe the numbers on the spash-page mean it's part of a DNA code:

147 = ADG


Or it could just as easily be a quotation from the Bible, "Romans Chapter 14, Verse 7":

For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.


There is also the matter of the letters located on one of the news pages, which I believe is our best bet. At first, you think it's an anagram of sorts... but if you check the "Source" code (no pun intended), you find there are a number of references to pages in some kind of manual:

A = P1-49
B = P1-345
C = P5-23
D = P9-3
E = P10-27
F = P1-172
G = P4-4
H = P3-71
I = P2-75
J = P1-406
K = P1-204
L = P1-250
M = P10-12
N = P1-22
O = P4-17
P = P3-19
Q = P10-79
R = P2-9
S = P5-21
T = P2-27
U = P4-31
V = P7-3
W = P2-126
X = 14-7 (the final sequence representing another key in the alphabet)

Stop me here if I'm getting people confused.

Now let's assume for the moment that the LegionPharma site is working the way the HL2 site did prior to the game's release: a section dedicated to giving fans clues to a Cipher they must answer in order to know the truth. Let's also assume that the number shown on Ritual's splash page will either change to another sequence, or the last two sequences are already on the site waiting to be found (it's also possible the answer to the question on the careers page represents another sequence).

If each of these "keys" responds to a page and word in SiN's manual, and the sequence of how they've been placed on LegionPharma's page means a specific order... ;)

[Jerc]

It's the numbers of chemical elements, when you solve this equation it gives you BLOODy_PAtH. it has been solved here http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=136&amp;sid=f87b3434418b2672f2ac0ecca7 80397f

It finally led us to http://www.legionpharma.com/about.php?31L361813R

[Tiletron]

Basically all I'm saying is, they've spent months putting together these clues...

Do you really believe they would stop 18 days prior to the announcement if there wasn't more to be found? Personally, I wouldn't.

[In5t16At0r]

Wow, it seems I'm a late bloomer for news on SiN2 I can hardly take it all in. SiN episodes for $20 every 3-4 months, I guess I am game for that, as long as they are good of course. This whole viral campaign has really got me hooked to the SiN phenomenom once again, it is really good to see some ol' Sinners, still into the game.

[Megazoid]

Originally posted by Jerc:
It finally led us to http://www.legionpharma.com/about.php?31L361813R




I found that, but the Unfiction boys didn't like it because I kind of cheated lol /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Smokey [UPS]]

I didn't really read much...but I see this SiN Episode jibbah jabbah, as long as there is plenty of MP, all is well.

Woot Woot

[p166]

Well this is great news, isn't it? I'm still reading through this massive thread, but I just wanted to say hello to everyone. It's good to see a lot of old faces here.

[TheDarthJedi]

Originally posted by p166:
Well this is great news, isn't it? I'm still reading through this massive thread, but I just wanted to say hello to everyone. It's good to see a lot of old faces here.



hey there p166!! /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[In5t16At0r]

TheDarthJedi, did you use to play on Heat.net?

[Lord Byroth]

Hey P166.... more from out of the woodwork!

[craigp]

Back again.

Anyway, I did see a tasty tasty mutant. Multiplayer, I was told not with episode 1 but it's definitely in the works.


I'm amazed by the episodic sotrytelling they've got planned, and the fact that Ritual have a firm graps of what the want to do with it. It's very ambitious.

And the interactivity was one of the things that brought people to SiN, so they're definitely adding lots of that.

Craig.

[DrWoo McM]

Originally posted by craigp:
Back again.

Anyway, I did see a tasty tasty mutant. Multiplayer, I was told not with episode 1 but it's definitely in the works.


I'm amazed by the episodic sotrytelling they've got planned, and the fact that Ritual have a firm graps of what the want to do with it. It's very ambitious.

And the interactivity was one of the things that brought people to SiN, so they're definitely adding lots of that.

Craig.



Thanks for the info Craig. I'm disappointed that there won't be any MP for Episode 1. Oh well!

[phxTOM]

Originally posted by craigp:
Back again.

Anyway, I did see a tasty tasty mutant. Multiplayer, I was told not with episode 1 but it's definitely in the works.


I'm amazed by the episodic sotrytelling they've got planned, and the fact that Ritual have a firm graps of what the want to do with it. It's very ambitious.

And the interactivity was one of the things that brought people to SiN, so they're definitely adding lots of that.

Craig.



my worst fears coming true.
damn, no multiplayer? have to wait longer? grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[JezzyBall]

Originally posted by craigp:
Back again.

Anyway, I did see a tasty tasty mutant. Multiplayer, I was told not with episode 1 but it's definitely in the works.


I'm amazed by the episodic sotrytelling they've got planned, and the fact that Ritual have a firm graps of what the want to do with it. It's very ambitious.

And the interactivity was one of the things that brought people to SiN, so they're definitely adding lots of that.

Craig.



What? No MP Episode 1. For [censored] Sakes. Now THAT is the stoopit decision. Stoopit. Stoopit. Stoopit.

[a_nevels666]

Originally posted by JezzyBall:

Originally posted by craigp:
Back again.

Anyway, I did see a tasty tasty mutant. Multiplayer, I was told not with episode 1 but it's definitely in the works.


I'm amazed by the episodic sotrytelling they've got planned, and the fact that Ritual have a firm graps of what the want to do with it. It's very ambitious.

And the interactivity was one of the things that brought people to SiN, so they're definitely adding lots of that.

Craig.



What? No MP Episode 1. For [censored] Sakes. Not THAT is the stoopit decision. Stoopit. Stoopit. Stoopit.



I don't really mind as long as they do add it in a later episode.

[ShawnKetcherside]

We can’t tell you how excited we are to see you guys jazzed about SiN Episodes: Emergence, seeing the community jumping really keeps us devs motivated. I’ve been reading the posts here, and trust me, we haven’t forgotten about multiplayer. It’s a very high priority for us.

Episodic content gives us the chance to introduce new gameplay elements to the SiN Universe and respond quickly to player feedback. Most importantly, it will enable us to give the community the multiplayer experience they really want. With the power given to us by the Source Engine and the freedom offered by self-publishing, we don't want to dump standard vanilla multiplayer on to the community. The SiN franchise is key for Ritual, and we will not put out something subpar. One important step for us is to give you, the player, a voice in this process. To do this, in the near future you will find a comprehensive multiplayer survey on SinEpisodes.com that will help us shape the game into a multiplayer experience worthy of the SiN name.

SiN E: Emergence will be a phenomenal single player experience, but we know how important multiplayer is to the community and the franchise. We don’t want our fans to have to “settle,” we want them blown away.

[DrWoo McM]

Originally posted by ShawnKetcherside:
We can’t tell you how excited we are to see you guys jazzed about SiN Episodes: Emergence, seeing the community jumping really keeps us devs motivated. I’ve been reading the posts here, and trust me, we haven’t forgotten about multiplayer. It’s a very high priority for us.

Episodic content gives us the chance to introduce new gameplay elements to the SiN Universe and respond quickly to player feedback. Most importantly, it will enable us to give the community the multiplayer experience they really want. With the power given to us by the Source Engine and the freedom offered by self-publishing, we don't want to dump standard vanilla multiplayer on to the community. The SiN franchise is key for Ritual, and we will not put out something subpar. One important step for us is to give you, the player, a voice in this process. To do this, in the near future you will find a comprehensive multiplayer survey on SinEpisodes.com that will help us shape the game into a multiplayer experience worthy of the SiN name.

SiN E: Emergence will be a phenomenal single player experience, but we know how important multiplayer is to the community and the franchise. We don’t want our fans to have to “settle,” we want them blown away.



Shawn,

I'm not going to lie and say I'm not a bit disappointed, but I understand Ritual's position and I'm glad that you want to deliver an awesome MP experience. It means a lot to us that you guys and (girls?) take the time to read these threads and that you are interested in our suggestion.

Thanks Again and I'll be sure to pickup my copy of Episode 1.

[TheDarthJedi]

Originally posted by In5t16At0r:
TheDarthJedi, did you use to play on Heat.net?



I jumped back and forth from heat and gamespy.. usually just looking for a good game /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

so, yup.

[TheDarthJedi]

Originally posted by ShawnKetcherside:
We can’t tell you how excited we are to see you guys jazzed about SiN Episodes: Emergence, seeing the community jumping really keeps us devs motivated. I’ve been reading the posts here, and trust me, we haven’t forgotten about multiplayer. It’s a very high priority for us.

Episodic content gives us the chance to introduce new gameplay elements to the SiN Universe and respond quickly to player feedback. Most importantly, it will enable us to give the community the multiplayer experience they really want. With the power given to us by the Source Engine and the freedom offered by self-publishing, we don't want to dump standard vanilla multiplayer on to the community. The SiN franchise is key for Ritual, and we will not put out something subpar. One important step for us is to give you, the player, a voice in this process. To do this, in the near future you will find a comprehensive multiplayer survey on SinEpisodes.com that will help us shape the game into a multiplayer experience worthy of the SiN name.

SiN E: Emergence will be a phenomenal single player experience, but we know how important multiplayer is to the community and the franchise. We don’t want our fans to have to “settle,” we want them blown away.



for starters,

make it like SiN 1 multiplayer /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

honestly, i have a hard time seeing better than that existing. hehehe

[phxTOM]

Originally posted by ShawnKetcherside:
We can’t tell you how excited we are to see you guys jazzed about SiN Episodes: Emergence, seeing the community jumping really keeps us devs motivated. I’ve been reading the posts here, and trust me, we haven’t forgotten about multiplayer. It’s a very high priority for us.

Episodic content gives us the chance to introduce new gameplay elements to the SiN Universe and respond quickly to player feedback. Most importantly, it will enable us to give the community the multiplayer experience they really want. With the power given to us by the Source Engine and the freedom offered by self-publishing, we don't want to dump standard vanilla multiplayer on to the community. The SiN franchise is key for Ritual, and we will not put out something subpar. One important step for us is to give you, the player, a voice in this process. To do this, in the near future you will find a comprehensive multiplayer survey on SinEpisodes.com that will help us shape the game into a multiplayer experience worthy of the SiN name.

SiN E: Emergence will be a phenomenal single player experience, but we know how important multiplayer is to the community and the franchise. We don’t want our fans to have to “settle,” we want them blown away.



finally, a statement.
hope i will not be too old to play sin episodes mp (need a new name for that) when it's released.
please, let us know more about what's going on with it. tia /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[JezzyBall]

Originally posted by ShawnKetcherside:
We can’t tell you how excited we are to see you guys jazzed about SiN Episodes: Emergence, seeing the community jumping really keeps us devs motivated. I’ve been reading the posts here, and trust me, we haven’t forgotten about multiplayer. It’s a very high priority for us.

Episodic content gives us the chance to introduce new gameplay elements to the SiN Universe and respond quickly to player feedback. Most importantly, it will enable us to give the community the multiplayer experience they really want. With the power given to us by the Source Engine and the freedom offered by self-publishing, we don't want to dump standard vanilla multiplayer on to the community. The SiN franchise is key for Ritual, and we will not put out something subpar. One important step for us is to give you, the player, a voice in this process. To do this, in the near future you will find a comprehensive multiplayer survey on SinEpisodes.com that will help us shape the game into a multiplayer experience worthy of the SiN name.

SiN E: Emergence will be a phenomenal single player experience, but we know how important multiplayer is to the community and the franchise. We don’t want our fans to have to “settle,” we want them blown away.



As has been said before, We appreciate the comments and it's a reason we're here. That being said, In my opinion the largest reason that a core of us have stayed around and are now coming back is "Multiplayer". It is and was a central core to this community. I've waited this long for this announcement and always have been a supporter. I'll be here when MP rolls out. (Still think it should be there on launch...but if it ain't quality....don't do it.

[Grandpapa]

Originally posted by JezzyBall:

Originally posted by ShawnKetcherside:
We can’t tell you how excited we are to see you guys jazzed about SiN Episodes: Emergence, seeing the community jumping really keeps us devs motivated. I’ve been reading the posts here, and trust me, we haven’t forgotten about multiplayer. It’s a very high priority for us.

Episodic content gives us the chance to introduce new gameplay elements to the SiN Universe and respond quickly to player feedback. Most importantly, it will enable us to give the community the multiplayer experience they really want. With the power given to us by the Source Engine and the freedom offered by self-publishing, we don't want to dump standard vanilla multiplayer on to the community. The SiN franchise is key for Ritual, and we will not put out something subpar. One important step for us is to give you, the player, a voice in this process. To do this, in the near future you will find a comprehensive multiplayer survey on SinEpisodes.com that will help us shape the game into a multiplayer experience worthy of the SiN name.

SiN E: Emergence will be a phenomenal single player experience, but we know how important multiplayer is to the community and the franchise. We don’t want our fans to have to “settle,” we want them blown away.



As has been said before, We appreciate the comments and it's a reason we're here. That being said, In my opinion the largest reason that a core of us have stayed around and are now coming back is "Multiplayer". It is and was a central core to this community. I've waited this long for this announcement and always have been a supporter. I'll be here when MP rolls out. (Still think it should be there on launch...but if it ain't quality....don't do it.


Good point, and i totally agree that.

[ILiveInTheDark]

Thanks for all of your personal support, from the art department we are aiming for this thing to kick as mucho ass as possible. Count on a damn good time and thanks for your support.

[JezzyBall]

Originally posted by ILiveInTheDark:
Thanks for all of your personal support, from the art department we are aiming for this thing to kick as mucho ass as possible. Count on a damn good time and thanks for your support.



Welcome....color our world man. Color our world.

[sock]

Originally posted by STATIC3D:
I REALLY wish this Steam thing for SiN wasn't the case. I'm not a fan of Steam, and can't see this really helping SiN in the long run (beyond being able to see SiN again). As much as I hate to say it, unless there is going to be a boxed version of SiN episodes on store shelves, I will not be purchasing/playing the game. I did not purchase HL2 because, and ONLY because, of the Steam required activation (need to download the rest of the game) method. I know that may seem short sided by some (as a gamer). However, I refuse to purchase a piece of software on the store shelves, just like I would any other product, that I cannot use without "permission" (whatever you want to call it). Activation, if required, should be a ONE TIME thing that can be saved/stored and used at ANY other time in the future as long as I own the software.




I cannot agree more. If this is the direction that PC titles are going then I will be playing less and less PC games. I did not buy HL2 because of Steam and certainly do not agree with the fact that I need steam running to play an OFF-LINE SP GAME. Sure people say you only need steam once in order to start the game, but why? I paid for the product, I want to play it offline when I want, steam does not give the gamer/end user any choices except one ... if you don't like it, don't buy the game and that is what Im doing.

I wish all the staff at Ritual good luck with the production of SIN and hope it works out for you.

Sock

[Grandpapa]

Why, after reading all these old post's, i feel a bit sad?

[alienmonster]

Why, after reading all these old post's, i feel a bit sad?

I feel sad that the Ritual website has finally been taken down.
I know the company was gone anyway but seeing their website go
away for good is sad.

[Jin]

So it wasn't just me, thinking there was something wrong with the internet? The Sin Episodes website was taken down :(...

[Apprentice]

I feel sad that the Ritual website has finally been taken down.
I know the company was gone anyway but seeing their website go
away for good is sad.
It is somewhere a good thing that its down. Perhaps the n00bs that come here wanting to "post" about Episode 2 will now realize that it will never be released . . .

[Grandpapa]

It is somewhere a good thing that its down. Perhaps the n00bs that come here wanting to "post" about Episode 2 will now realize that it will never be released . . .

Oh yeah, it's not going to happend tomorrow, next year....ever.

[Apprentice]

Oh yeah, it's not going to happend tomorrow, next year....ever.
Time to pull the plug for Ritualistic.com then, since almost no-one hardly comes here anymore . . .