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Michael_Russell

10-11-2005, 01:46 PM

Well, you're in some luck. We're shooting to finish our "vertical slices" this week.

A "vertical slice" is one section of the game that is essentially done visually. These sections of the game serve two purposes. The first is to establish the visual bar for the remainder of the game. The second is to give us areas that we can create screenshots from.

The early areas that you saw screenshots of have been revamped fairly significantly. Textures have been improved, the models have been reworked, etc.

Again, we don't mean to be silent...we just want to blow you away. Give us a few more days...you'll be glad you did.

OhMan

10-11-2005, 07:13 PM

Awesome, thanks! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Bathazar

10-16-2005, 09:17 PM

Has it been a few more days yet??? /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Buzzfunk

10-19-2005, 07:59 PM

As an old school SIN fan, yes...we need some more news!! New screens, more blogs...come on guys!! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

NeoK

10-21-2005, 02:26 PM

comeon show us some new content /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Michael_Russell

10-21-2005, 04:54 PM

The level side of the screenshot push is done. Final character model assets needed for the screenshots are being placed in the levels as I write this.

That means that this weekend, the screenshots should be taken, and the shots should start appearing across this here Intarweb-thingy shortly thereafter.

Personally, I can't wait to see what you guys think of the changes. I can definitely understand the drive to see what we've been working on. I'm just glad we're finally going to be able to show you the new stuff...

NeoK

10-22-2005, 12:05 AM

Brilliant news.

All i can say is: Make me play Sin:Episodes instead of Quake4. I'm convinced you guys are able to do it, as you have done it before (q1 / q2 )

Bathazar

10-23-2005, 03:56 AM

So we wont see any new screenshots this weekend, but mosy likely next week?

Bathazar

10-23-2005, 06:33 PM

Also, how much longer till we see some gamplay footage?
Im dying to see some of new features in action. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Serevinus

10-23-2005, 07:19 PM

Arnt we all /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

What I want to know is when it will be available on Steam (pre-download?), the release dates I have seen say it will be out in Early Q4, that would be sometime in the next couple of weeks wouldnt it?... not that I want anyone to be rushing the release of course (I dont want to be reminded of TR: AOD)

Buzzfunk

10-25-2005, 03:31 PM

I have to say...i could never understand why id didnt hire Ritual for any q4 or d3 expansion stuff. Ritual just KNOW level design. I still remember each of the SIN DM maps. Pure brilliance. I think Raven musta gotten so bored cause the q4 maps sure as hell are boring....

SO WHERE are the new screens?? /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Riddled

10-26-2005, 08:54 PM

By Buzzfunk
SO WHERE are the new screens??

I believe that Michael is hiding them in his coat pocket.

Apprentice

10-28-2005, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by Michael_Russell:
Again, we don't mean to be silent...we just want to blow you away. Give us a few more days...you'll be glad you did.

Could you define 'a few more days' ??

Weeks ?? Months ?? Years ??

Michael_Russell

10-28-2005, 06:07 PM

We had a bug with eyeballs not appearing on some models and some odd stretching on some of the new NPC's textures that took longer than expected to fix. Between that and a nasty flu bug that took out about a quarter of the office over the last week, it's been a mess.

Sorry about the delay...we're working on it.

Bathazar

10-29-2005, 02:29 AM

Is the first episode still going to be released this year?

Michael_Russell

10-29-2005, 07:10 PM

Last I heard, we were still targeting fall quarter, which means we're targeting a release before December 22.

Apprentice

10-29-2005, 08:52 PM

Originally posted by Michael_Russell:
Last I heard, we were still targeting fall quarter, which means we're targeting a release before December 22.

Cutting it a little close for christmas, aren't you ?? /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Besides that, are you still working so close before the holiday season ??

azmodai

10-30-2005, 09:09 AM

Most dev teams work up until christmas eve, then might get a break shortly thereafter. It's a question of deadlines though.

TheDarthJedi

10-31-2005, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by Michael_Russell:
Last I heard, we were still targeting fall quarter, which means we're targeting a release before December 22.

*nice*
get crackin! /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

you have our support, you'll soon hae our money....

we just want your game /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Buzzfunk

11-04-2005, 04:20 AM

So any news?? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

SCREENS!!??? /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Oh wait...getting over the halloween coma? hehe

New SIN game before the years over would be so friggin awesome!! HURRY

Grandpapa

11-04-2005, 06:21 AM

I don't want to push it too much, i can wait for a perfect game /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

David_Grove

11-05-2005, 11:57 PM

Hi everyone, back after a long time to just relax away from the computer. Anyway, as for news... I wanna know how far the first episode will go. Like the average game play time. Cause if its below one hour I'd feel a little... I dunno, dissappointed is the word I suppose. Might be too strong but it gives the idea. If its going to be demo length I'd like to know about it ahead of time because honestly, I'm getting hyped about this. Watched the Anime, played the game (only SiN, not the expantion) loved them both and dying to use Blade's magnum again with more style. But yeah, I'd like to hear about the thought to be game play time for it at least. Oh, and an estimate on Harddrive space needed. I'll want to have space open for the moment it comes out. Thanks /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

ertertwert

11-06-2005, 09:15 AM

My guess is that it would take the average gamer anywhere from 3-6 hours to complete. However, for "speed runners", they would probably be able to complete it in less than an hour (barring cut-scenes). Of course, this is complete speculation, but it is what I have in mind for the length. I would love to be wrong and have it longer though.

Grandpapa

11-06-2005, 11:50 AM

Might take a bit longer, when digging out all secrets and eastern eggs...

3L3Mn8Tr

11-06-2005, 01:39 PM

When will it be GOLD? When will steam announce its distribution of Sin2?

BrushBaron

11-06-2005, 02:24 PM

The game easily takes more than 1hr to play. As for when it's done? When it's crispy golden around the edges and fluffy in the middle. Right now it's getting crispy around the edges but still needs a little more rising in the middle.

Xenogenetic

11-06-2005, 03:00 PM

Mmmmmm. I can't wait to eat this game.

Bathazar

11-07-2005, 01:53 AM

Is it crispy golden enough to release new screenshots yet??? /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Michael_Russell

11-07-2005, 03:30 PM

Let's just say that I'm on record as to never leaking anything. (http://www.romsteady.net/leaked/prepare_to_stop.png)

Bathazar

11-07-2005, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by Michael_Russell:
Let's just say that I'm on record as to never leaking anything. (http://www.romsteady.net/leaked/prepare_to_stop.png)

I will not prepare to stop. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Tiletron

11-08-2005, 01:24 AM

Originally posted by Bathazar:
I will not prepare to stop. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

...which was precisely the reason why HL2 wasn't as perfect as they would have liked: people got impatient.

Apprentice

11-08-2005, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by Tiletron:
...which was precisely the reason why HL2 wasn't as perfect as they would have liked: people got impatient.

People weren't the problem, if the people really was the problem, then we should've had "Duke Nukem forever" by now or for that matter "Team Fortress 2".

HL2 was rushed in the release because of ATI, who saw its HL2-combo sales decrease rapidly especially after the release of Doom 3, which was packaged with certain Nvida cards . . .

Tiletron

11-08-2005, 06:11 PM

No, HL2 was rushed because a group couldn't wait for the game, so they decided to steal part of engine and leak it to the Internet for everyone to play. It might have been better than it was if that hadn't happened, but now we'll never know. Even last month for one of the scariest FPS games of the decade, F.E.A.R... 2 DAYS before being officially released to retailers, gets leaked to fans.

Ok, so occassionally there are hardware-manufacturers to blame, but the bigger problem in the industry today is the fact that some fans can't wait for a game legally, so they use the illegal method of obtaining it before its out for everybody. How would you feel if you worked for a developer, and there was even a level you didn't want anyone to get hold of until you were sure it was the very best you could make it... then after all that effort, it appears on fansites left and right and someone is claiming responsibility either for making it themselves or simply wants to embarrass the company you work for?

A few screenshots might be fine for some, but IMHO not seeing the game at all until December would be a great Christmas present to finish off the year with, and it would give Ritual some more leeway to iron out any bugs that may still be lurking in the code.

Bathazar

11-08-2005, 11:47 PM

Originally posted by Apprentice:

Originally posted by Tiletron:
...which was precisely the reason why HL2 wasn't as perfect as they would have liked: people got impatient.

You do know that I was making a joke about the pic he posted right? Guess you didnt see it. Its sorta hidden.
People weren't the problem, if the people really was the problem, then we should've had "Duke Nukem forever" by now or for that matter "Team Fortress 2".

HL2 was rushed in the release because of ATI, who saw its HL2-combo sales decrease rapidly especially after the release of Doom 3, which was packaged with certain Nvida cards . . .

Xenogenetic

11-09-2005, 12:04 AM

Originally posted by Bathazar:

Originally posted by Apprentice:

Originally posted by Tiletron:
...which was precisely the reason why HL2 wasn't as perfect as they would have liked: people got impatient.

You do know that I was making a joke about the pic he posted right? Guess you didnt see it. Its sorta hidden.
People weren't the problem, if the people really was the problem, then we should've had "Duke Nukem forever" by now or for that matter "Team Fortress 2".

HL2 was rushed in the release because of ATI, who saw its HL2-combo sales decrease rapidly especially after the release of Doom 3, which was packaged with certain Nvida cards . . .

</font><span class="spoiler" onmouseover="this.className='spoilerhighlight'" onmouseout="this.className='spoiler'"> I don't get the point of this, do you? If you know why people just quote other people please tell me! </span><font class="post">

Tiletron

11-09-2005, 03:07 AM

You can repeat that as much as you like, it still doesn't make my reply any less false

Michael_Russell

11-09-2005, 04:03 AM

He was hiding his reply just like I hid a portion of a 2048x1536 screenshot in my post.

ertertwert

11-09-2005, 04:20 AM

I like this thread. =)

Grandpapa

11-09-2005, 07:54 AM

One thing i don't want to see in episodes, is unfinished graphics, like i found from HL L (http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/bigpapa/d2_lostcoast0013.jpg)ostcoast, it's more like a tech demo, i know, but still /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Riddled

11-09-2005, 04:52 PM

No, no, no, that isn't unfinished graphics. Your not supposed to be there but the person designing the map was too lazy to stick a big invisible brush down the middle to stop us from getting there. I found that out on the first day as I travelled along the cliffside.

ALSO, you can fall out of the map underneath a big rock. I recorded myself doing it.

Serevinus

11-09-2005, 06:51 PM

I don't like it when mapmakers place invisible brushes (or small objects it looks like you should be able to jump over) to prevent you from leaving the playable area of a map, I remember a couple from SiN, they seem like bugs even though they are probably designed that way on purpose. There should be something there that looks like its going to stop you (fence, glass door), or a preventative measure that stops you from leaving the area (sentry gun, minefield).
I'm probably just being fussy /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Xenogenetic

11-09-2005, 06:53 PM

I feel like such an idiot, I should have been the first to see that link.

Buzzfunk

11-09-2005, 07:18 PM

So can we can ONE screenshot at least? I m ean it cant be THAT hard to snap a good shot...come on!

/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Michael_Russell

11-09-2005, 11:02 PM

Two things before I get back to testing "SiN: Episodes."

One, several shots are now done. Some have been sent off to press, others are going up soon.

Two, that was the only file in that folder, guys. Please stop trying to hack my personal web space trying to find more. It isn't cool, and it makes me feel less likely to do something similar in the future.

Heck, my server logs show more hack attempts than views of the picture!

Xenogenetic

11-09-2005, 11:23 PM

Haha that is really funny, let me be a play tester.

ninken

11-10-2005, 12:52 AM

Heck, my server logs show more hack attempts than views of the picture!

LOL that why you make us work for Leaked stuff by making us solve puzzles. Did you guys forget about http://www.sinclairetechnologies.com/ ? or did you guys give up on that?

Grandpapa

11-10-2005, 03:39 AM

I bet they haven't any time left to do it. What comes to hacking, that's not cool /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif Stop leaking, and give us some real screenshots soon!!

Riddled

11-10-2005, 08:47 AM

I wonder if the h-four-xor is stupid enogh to be h-four-xing you from a static address? I know there's been some crap flying around recently (on the forums), perhaps this 'hypermind' you mentioned is responsible?

Tiletron

11-10-2005, 06:47 PM

the problem with the SiNtek site is that it hasn't been updated since the end of July, making it more of a publicity stunt than anything else.

ertertwert

11-10-2005, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by Michael_Russell:
Two things before I get back to testing "SiN: Episodes."

One, several shots are now done. Some have been sent off to press, others are going up soon.

Two, that was the only file in that folder, guys. Please stop trying to hack my personal web space trying to find more. It isn't cool, and it makes me feel less likely to do something similar in the future.

Heck, my server logs show more hack attempts than views of the picture!

Haha, you can't really blame people for trying after you whet their appetite. It's like you intentionally left the door open for them to come in, but then yelled at them for actually doing it.

BrushBaron

11-11-2005, 01:12 AM

I disagree. It's more like Michael held up a photo album for people to see one picture and when people tried to hack his computer, it's as if people tried to grab the photo album from his hands and read it on their own. That's not very nice and he and his property should be treated with more respect.

Otherwise, we'll have to do things differently so we can protect ourselves more.

People need to realize that we are doing this in our own time, trying to be nice and give something back. Michael is an extremely busy guy, working on two different projects and interfacing with the SiN community on a regular basis. People need to show him some more respect.

This reminds me of the time someone asked me for some money, I gave them five dollars and then they asked for more. I refused and the person started harrassing me, almost physically. I was nice once, but not again after that.

The SiN community is home to great people so lets be a bit more respectful of each other and respresent the community in a positive way.

-Reid

Riddled

11-11-2005, 05:16 AM

Agreed, the Tribe already are pushing themselves hard to have SiN: Eps released in due time, they don't need some maniac attacking them with a variety of fish at the same time. If you can't be nice, leave em be! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Tiletron

11-11-2005, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by BrushBaron:
I disagree. It's more like Michael held up a photo album for people to see one picture and when people tried to hack his computer, it's as if people tried to grab the photo album from his hands and read it on their own. That's not very nice and he and his property should be treated with more respect.

Otherwise, we'll have to do things differently so we can protect ourselves more.

People need to realize that we are doing this in our own time, trying to be nice and give something back. Michael is an extremely busy guy, working on two different projects and interfacing with the SiN community on a regular basis. People need to show him some more respect.

This reminds me of the time someone asked me for some money, I gave them five dollars and then they asked for more. I refused and the person started harrassing me, almost physically. I was nice once, but not again after that.

The SiN community is home to great people so lets be a bit more respectful of each other and respresent the community in a positive way.

-Reid

Well said.

This goes back to what I was saying earlier. I do work for mods, and even though they may not be referred to as commercial in many standpoints, they are still considered possibly some form of IP. The truth is our work for mods, just like games, takes a lot of time and dedication. If you have no respect for what any of us do and the amount of effort we put in, there is little point in you playing the finished product, because that is where it all pays off.

Seeing it in development is good, but only if you have the common decency to not steal it from our own computers.

JezzyBall

11-11-2005, 04:53 PM

The knuckleheads should be banned and reported. Zero tolerance. I view them as no better than thiefs.

Zero Tolerance and Good Riddance. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Michael_Russell

11-11-2005, 05:44 PM

While I agree with the zero tolerance standpoint, I can also see the point about Ritual-run things like LegionPharma going dark because the people who were handling it got "wrapped up" big-time in "S:E", so I'm going to state this once and once only.

On occasion, I'm going to be authorized to bring you inside glimpses into our products, including "SiN: Episodes." When I am authorized to bring you those bits and pieces, I may find it necessary to host pictures and/or other files on my domain ( RomSteady.net (http://www.romsteady.net) ).

That is my personal domain, and is not associated with Ritual in any way, shape or form.

Any detected hack attempts against my server after this post goes up shall be immediately reported to the offender's ISP.

Okay, enough deep, depressing verbage. I've got to get back to testing...

OhMan

01-24-2006, 01:51 PM

I think that I can bump this thread /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Xenogenetic

01-24-2006, 06:44 PM

FROM THE RULES

So-called "thread bumping", i.e. bringing a topic back to the top of the topic listing by posting a useless reply (like "bump"), is neither constructive nor necessary. If people are interested in a particular topic, they will reply to it, thus conveniently keeping topics of interest near the top of the post list.