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deceiver 05-09-2006 05:32 PM

SiN Episodes: Emergence Feedback and Suggestions
 
So, seeing as how the release is a little more than 20 hours away, feedback and suggestions for the game are inevitable. I thought it would be a good idea to have a big thread so that the devs won't have to sift through a massive amount of threads for suggestions/feedback (seeing as how they will be considering our suggestions/feedback!).

Whether your feedback/suggestions is about gameplay, music, sound, graphics, etc. Post 'em here!

Also, come to think of it, a bug thread would be in order too! <---No dice as per what Michael said.

P.S.
If a suggestions/feedback forum section is planned, I guess you can delete this post hehe.

Michael_Russell 05-09-2006 05:46 PM

Re: SiN Episodes: Emergence Feedback and Suggestions
 
Actually, I'd rather have bugs as seperate threads to make it easier for people to find the solution they are looking for, but I agree...suggestions and feedback, dump it here.

Maniac 05-09-2006 08:28 PM

Re: SiN Episodes: Emergence Feedback and Suggestions
 
My first bit of feedback (or criticism if you will):

It's not out yet!

-Maniac

Maxey 05-09-2006 09:23 PM

Re: SiN Episodes: Emergence Feedback and Suggestio
 
I think this game seriously lacks ninjas.

And pirates for that matter.

Hell, scratch this game and make it a Pirates vs Ninjas game.

Or not.

mercurius420 05-09-2006 09:47 PM

Re: SiN Episodes: Emergence Feedback and Suggestio
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Maxey:
I think this game seriously lacks ninjas.

And pirates for that matter.

Hell, scratch this game and make it a Pirates vs Ninjas game.

Or not.

I have always dreamed of a game featuring robotic ninja pirates from outer space. Sadly, no one else has dared to dream the dream...

RatherDashing 05-09-2006 09:48 PM

Re: SiN Episodes: Emergence Feedback and Suggestio
 
Don't forget undead pyschic monkeys.
System Shock 2 was the true inovator here.

Omega1 05-09-2006 09:54 PM

Re: SiN Episodes: Emergence Feedback and Suggestio
 
I wanna see the space ninjas be reimplemented into the game. Give us space ninjas! We want space ninjas!

Blade_cop 05-09-2006 10:14 PM

Re: SiN Episodes: Emergence Feedback and Suggestio
 
I hope there will be secret areas or even secret levels like other games do.

CommanderZx2 05-09-2006 10:20 PM

Re: SiN Episodes: Emergence Feedback and Suggestio
 
Or even secret endings... anyone here gotten the "other" ending of Max Payne 2? If I remember correctly you had to finish it on highest difficulty.

Moleculor 05-09-2006 11:21 PM

Re: SiN Episodes: Emergence Feedback and Suggestio
 
Ok, since people are starting to already threadjack this with "Release it!" crap and "ninja/pirate" stuff, I think I should try to pull this thread back on topic:

I know the game isn't out yet, and I've already said this once, but this is the 'official' place for this: Sexuality needs to be in the game as blatantly or more blatantly than in SiN1. I know you guys censored SiN1 by removing a bit of visual porn in one secret area, but part of the appeal of the original SiN was the fact that it treated the player -like- an adult. I'm tired of playing games that have been censored to make it suitable to 17 year old's eyes.

A perfect example of this would be (and I've said this again) the apparent dream sequence with Elexis in a pond. I don't -think- this is actually a dream, but the effect is certainly screaming something along the lines of "I'm mother nature" and "Revel in sensuality". The scene would have been perfect if she were nude, or at least topless, and she's not in the videos. There may be a way of making her such in the game... I'm not sure (though I suspect there is since her bikini does actually seem to be separate from her body), but that part should have been naked. Temptation, in all its forms, and quite blatant at that, was what that seems to call for, not a bit of censorship here or there.

Ok, maybe it's best to start out with an M rating and move on to AO later, though to be honest, I'm not sure the ESRB would give you an AO for a topless girl. God of War got an M for nudity. So has Oblivion. Try for it! (Though I personally think you should just simply push the envelope and go for that AO rating.)

Dawgfan 05-10-2006 12:42 AM

Re: SiN Episodes: Emergence Feedback and Suggestio
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Maxey:
I think this game seriously lacks ninjas.

And pirates for that matter.

Hell, scratch this game and make it a Pirates vs Ninjas game.

Or not.

That would be an excellent idea. I think adding Pirates and Ninjas is something all people can identify with especially in this post 911 world. Especially radical christian ninjas and pirates who have formed alliances on college campuses.

http://www.redandblack.com/vnews/dis...4?in_archive=1


Dawgfan 05-10-2006 12:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Moleculor:
I know the game isn't out yet, and I've already said this once, but this is the 'official' place for this: Sexuality needs to be in the game as blatantly or more blatantly than in SiN1. I know you guys censored SiN1 by removing a bit of visual porn in one secret area, but part of the appeal of the original SiN was the fact that it treated the player -like- an adult. I'm tired of playing games that have been censored to make it suitable to 17 year old's eyes.

I don't think nudity "needs" to be in there. It doesn't matter whether she's naked or in a bikini. Just as long as the story is top notch. I just want to see a lot more character developement concerning why Blade and Elexis's backgrounds and what makes them do what they do in Sin Episodes compared to the original sin, and from what I can tell more story is being driven in the latest game.

ertertwert 05-10-2006 02:36 AM

Re: SiN Episodes: Emergence Feedback and Suggestio
 
Regarding the nudity, personally I feel that there should be unrated games on steam; give devs more freedom.

Feeback about Emergence? I haven't played it yet, but I hope (and if not in the first episode, expect it in the second) that the scripted story sequences are animated (both facial and body) as well as it was in Half-Life 2. Anything less and people are going to whine and complain (that's what they are good at).

Iggy01 05-10-2006 05:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Blade_cop:
I hope there will be secret areas or even secret levels like other games do.

Secret areas? How about a "You're not suppose to be here -Levelord". LOL

shadeex 05-10-2006 06:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Iggy01:
Quote:

Originally posted by Blade_cop:
I hope there will be secret areas or even secret levels like other games do.

Secret areas? How about a "You're not suppose to be here -Levelord". LOL

I agree on both points here...

shadeex 05-10-2006 06:12 AM

Re: SiN Episodes: Emergence Feedback and Suggestio
 
Quote:

Originally posted by CommanderZx2:
Or even secret endings... anyone here gotten the "other" ending of Max Payne 2? If I remember correctly you had to finish it on highest difficulty.

yeap i got the secret ending...

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RatherDashing 05-10-2006 07:20 AM

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Why is pornography considered an adult affair? Surely they'll implement it if they're aiming for 13 year olds.

Tarn 05-10-2006 07:45 AM

Re: SiN Episodes: Emergence Feedback and Suggestio
 
There's a big difference between pornography and nudity. Failing to see this difference is where most of the ratings/censorship issues arise from. Nudity is a completely natural thing and anybody that complains about it is displaying a rather odd attitude to life.

Pornography, on the other hand, is designed specifically for titilation, often in crude ways. People objecting to this is understandable.

Pornography in games has nothing to do with them being designed for adults or more mature. Nudity, however, can be a very useful part of a storyteller's toolbox - in the case of the Elexis in the bikini shot from the trailer, it's hard to say either way given the lack of context.

RatherDashing 05-10-2006 07:49 AM

Re: SiN Episodes: Emergence Feedback and Suggestio
 
Sure, I guess I used the wrong word there - but AO is relating to pornography isn't it?
I mean, you can have nudity in a 15 film over here. Partial in a 12, even.

Moleculor 05-10-2006 07:50 AM

Re: SiN Episodes: Emergence Feedback and Suggestio
 
Agreed. Nudity can be used as a story element. See the PG-13 movie Titanic for evidence of this.

Pornography is for sexual thrills. (I like that too.)

Blade_cop 05-10-2006 11:53 AM

Re: SiN Episodes: Emergence Feedback and Suggestio
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Iggy01:
Quote:

Originally posted by Blade_cop:
I hope there will be secret areas or even secret levels like other games do.

Secret areas? How about a "You're not suppose to be here -Levelord". LOL

How about not, because I like secret areas. So about a "You're not suppose to be here -Levelord". [img]/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Monstroooo 05-10-2006 12:09 PM

Re: SiN Episodes: Emergence Feedback and Suggestio
 
So.

We'll be needing a new feedback thread then?

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Reverent 05-10-2006 03:55 PM

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yes this game rocks [img]/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

azz0r 05-10-2006 05:29 PM

Re: SiN Episodes: Emergence Feedback and Suggestio
 
+ Excellent sound, better cache than HL2, you can hear things screaming in the distance and things sound far away when they are, simply great
+ Excellent weapons
+ Headshots are easy and feel satisfying
+ Stats are awesome
+ Boob physics

- Terrible monster design
- Fall damage is too high
- Story wasnt explained to me, as Ive never played a Sin game before I was lost
- Terrible Lip Sync

Zinfacter 05-10-2006 05:30 PM

Re: Main menu song
 
When I loaded up SiN and heard that song in the main menu I was like "Oh yea..this is gonna kick major ass!" and I was wondering if anyone from Ritualistic would put that song out for download? Maybe for a small fee if needed?


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